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	<title>Comments on: MTAG Westgate ramp coalition</title>
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	<description>Working to ease the increasing truck numbers in Maribyrnong.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/09/mtag-westgate-ramp-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-1597</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Westgate just doesn&#039;t have the capacity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Westgate just doesn&#8217;t have the capacity</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/09/mtag-westgate-ramp-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps this is question raised and answered long ago, but isn&#039;t it preferable for trucks to take West Gate bridge, then the Bolte bridge and exit into Footscray Rd to reach the docks? This would obviate the need for them to travel through Yarraville and Footscray streets. If it is a question of tolls, isn&#039;t it cheaper and easier to subsidise tolls than to build expensive off-ramps and a new Hyde St, Whitehall St route?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this is question raised and answered long ago, but isn&#8217;t it preferable for trucks to take West Gate bridge, then the Bolte bridge and exit into Footscray Rd to reach the docks? This would obviate the need for them to travel through Yarraville and Footscray streets. If it is a question of tolls, isn&#8217;t it cheaper and easier to subsidise tolls than to build expensive off-ramps and a new Hyde St, Whitehall St route?</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/09/mtag-westgate-ramp-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-1585</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi anne maree - 
this map might help
http://www4.transport.vic.gov.au/vtp/pdfs/road_tunnel_geelong_to_port_melb.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi anne maree &#8211;<br />
this map might help<br />
<a href="http://www4.transport.vic.gov.au/vtp/pdfs/road_tunnel_geelong_to_port_melb.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www4.transport.vic.gov.au/vtp/pdfs/road_tunnel_geelong_to_port_melb.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: anne maree</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/09/mtag-westgate-ramp-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-1584</link>
		<dc:creator>anne maree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone just a quick question i have vey little knowledge of the areas of footscray yarraville kingsville and seddon but am looking to buy a house in these areas other than not buying on a main rd i am not sure of the areasto stay away from due o future proposed road works can any one help please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone just a quick question i have vey little knowledge of the areas of footscray yarraville kingsville and seddon but am looking to buy a house in these areas other than not buying on a main rd i am not sure of the areasto stay away from due o future proposed road works can any one help please?</p>
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		<title>By: dylan</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/09/mtag-westgate-ramp-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adam,

Yes it is possible to access Dynon Road from Footscray Road via Sims Street but my guess is it is not preferred by drivers due to 1) the congested right turn at Footscray road; and 2) it is longer and not as easy (no signals at Sims to Dynon, etc.).  The reverse is possible to.

It is correct that it is not possible to Access Hopkins/Moore  from Footscray Rd via Sims St as Sims St feeds onto Dynon eastbound only.   The reverse direction, however, is possible.

It is possible however to access Hopkins/Moore from Footscray Rd via Dock Link Rd which was completed to run all the way from Footscray to Dynon.   So by a combination of these two roads both of those routes are already possible in both directions without use of Whitehall. 

From my qualatative observations I believe Hopkins-&gt;Sims-&gt;Port is used quite a bit (that direction) but in the other direction there isn&#039;t much use of Docklink, rather Port-&gt;Footscray-&gt;Whitehall-&gt;Hopkins.  The use of Docklink (a specific truck route) might be somewhat hampered by the freight rail crossing on it, or it could just be because it is slightly longer and what is the incentive for drivers when they can use Whitehall?

On the note of Moore St, that is residiential too and I would hope that if the proposed by-pass of that (Newall&#039;s paddock) does not proceed that there is still a downgrade of the route in favour of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adam,</p>
<p>Yes it is possible to access Dynon Road from Footscray Road via Sims Street but my guess is it is not preferred by drivers due to 1) the congested right turn at Footscray road; and 2) it is longer and not as easy (no signals at Sims to Dynon, etc.).  The reverse is possible to.</p>
<p>It is correct that it is not possible to Access Hopkins/Moore  from Footscray Rd via Sims St as Sims St feeds onto Dynon eastbound only.   The reverse direction, however, is possible.</p>
<p>It is possible however to access Hopkins/Moore from Footscray Rd via Dock Link Rd which was completed to run all the way from Footscray to Dynon.   So by a combination of these two roads both of those routes are already possible in both directions without use of Whitehall. </p>
<p>From my qualatative observations I believe Hopkins-&gt;Sims-&gt;Port is used quite a bit (that direction) but in the other direction there isn&#8217;t much use of Docklink, rather Port-&gt;Footscray-&gt;Whitehall-&gt;Hopkins.  The use of Docklink (a specific truck route) might be somewhat hampered by the freight rail crossing on it, or it could just be because it is slightly longer and what is the incentive for drivers when they can use Whitehall?</p>
<p>On the note of Moore St, that is residiential too and I would hope that if the proposed by-pass of that (Newall&#8217;s paddock) does not proceed that there is still a downgrade of the route in favour of others.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/09/mtag-westgate-ramp-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dylan

I agree with you. This section of Whitehall, should not be used so heavily by truck traffic, its essentially 100% residential. Can you confirm that truck traffic can access Dynon Road via Sims Street from Whitehall/Footscray Road?

Some truck traffic will still need to use this portion of Whitehall Street to access Hopkins/Moore Street.

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dylan</p>
<p>I agree with you. This section of Whitehall, should not be used so heavily by truck traffic, its essentially 100% residential. Can you confirm that truck traffic can access Dynon Road via Sims Street from Whitehall/Footscray Road?</p>
<p>Some truck traffic will still need to use this portion of Whitehall Street to access Hopkins/Moore Street.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not in Melbourne much at the moment so it&#039;s a bit hard to research these things but I&#039;ll do what I can
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not in Melbourne much at the moment so it&#8217;s a bit hard to research these things but I&#8217;ll do what I can<br />
Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/09/mtag-westgate-ramp-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-1507</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure about that one, I&#039;ll have to check it out
Which candidate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about that one, I&#8217;ll have to check it out<br />
Which candidate?</p>
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		<title>By: dylan</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/09/mtag-westgate-ramp-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received a policy broucher from one of the local council candidates today which mentioned that they would support pushes for truck bans in residential streets and the Westgate ramps to help this (which is good) but also happened to refer to the route as directing trucks along Whitehall to Dynon Rd as well (not just Footscray Rd).

This is not the first comment of this kind I have read in the Eddington debate and I am getting increasingly concerned that the fact that Whitehall St north of Footscray Rd is mostly residential is lost on a lot of people.  It is just in the unfortuante position of being the continuation of a road that is mainly industrial further south.   The residents already have an unacceptable number of trucks and no curfew of any kind and it could quite likely get many more if explicit bans are not included and enforced as part of any Westgate ramps.   

Do you think there is any chance that trucks will be banned from this residential street as well if the ramps are built or is there no hope?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received a policy broucher from one of the local council candidates today which mentioned that they would support pushes for truck bans in residential streets and the Westgate ramps to help this (which is good) but also happened to refer to the route as directing trucks along Whitehall to Dynon Rd as well (not just Footscray Rd).</p>
<p>This is not the first comment of this kind I have read in the Eddington debate and I am getting increasingly concerned that the fact that Whitehall St north of Footscray Rd is mostly residential is lost on a lot of people.  It is just in the unfortuante position of being the continuation of a road that is mainly industrial further south.   The residents already have an unacceptable number of trucks and no curfew of any kind and it could quite likely get many more if explicit bans are not included and enforced as part of any Westgate ramps.   </p>
<p>Do you think there is any chance that trucks will be banned from this residential street as well if the ramps are built or is there no hope?</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/09/mtag-westgate-ramp-coalition/comment-page-1/#comment-1504</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke - Emily is referring to Hyde Street (north of francis street). Essentially, no trucks are allowed on this road. 

Peter- 29th Oct. about 3pm. Truck travelling north along Hyde Street. Turned right into somerville road. Reg No 52557-S. Have photo if required. 

Peter- re: numbers. Its all dependent on alignment. Are you able to email the proposed alignment you refer to? I&#039;d like to perform some analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke &#8211; Emily is referring to Hyde Street (north of francis street). Essentially, no trucks are allowed on this road. </p>
<p>Peter- 29th Oct. about 3pm. Truck travelling north along Hyde Street. Turned right into somerville road. Reg No 52557-S. Have photo if required. </p>
<p>Peter- re: numbers. Its all dependent on alignment. Are you able to email the proposed alignment you refer to? I&#8217;d like to perform some analysis.</p>
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