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	<title>Comments on: On off ramps for Westgate.</title>
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	<description>Working to ease the increasing truck numbers on the streets of Maribyrnong.</description>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/12/on-off-ramps-for-westgate/comment-page-2/#comment-1943</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi all
havent heard anything on the front yet this year...any progress or has this been swept under the rug
steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi all<br />
havent heard anything on the front yet this year&#8230;any progress or has this been swept under the rug<br />
steve</p>
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		<title>By: AaronC</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/12/on-off-ramps-for-westgate/comment-page-2/#comment-1900</link>
		<dc:creator>AaronC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update. 
Of the proposals Taimor showed me at the July meeting he did mention that the Thomas St option was the last option in the list as there was a lot involved as far as tearing down houses and factories, plus getting it through the middle of the golf course and the park on the otherside of the train line, as opposed to pushing the ramps as tight as possible to the Westgate Freeway &amp; Bridge. 
It was also mentioned that if the ramp does go down along the drain behind KFC and the industrial side of Thomas St, there would be noise walls put in which I do see as a slight positive as there is nothing there now at all.
I guess I will have to wait and see early 2010 and see if hopeful visions turn into realities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update.<br />
Of the proposals Taimor showed me at the July meeting he did mention that the Thomas St option was the last option in the list as there was a lot involved as far as tearing down houses and factories, plus getting it through the middle of the golf course and the park on the otherside of the train line, as opposed to pushing the ramps as tight as possible to the Westgate Freeway &amp; Bridge.<br />
It was also mentioned that if the ramp does go down along the drain behind KFC and the industrial side of Thomas St, there would be noise walls put in which I do see as a slight positive as there is nothing there now at all.<br />
I guess I will have to wait and see early 2010 and see if hopeful visions turn into realities.</p>
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		<title>By: CMAC</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/12/on-off-ramps-for-westgate/comment-page-2/#comment-1899</link>
		<dc:creator>CMAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got back from meeting hosted by Taimor and Charlie (Vic Roads) at the MCC offices.
Very informative.
As I understood it VR report will be with the minister early next 2010 for consideration.
Project is jointly funded with the Feds and there has been no allocation of $ yet.
Once VR report has been considered the results will be published and methodology for planning decided. Public comment will be invited.
Don&#039;t buy / sell until the government commits.

Suggest you get to the next info session.
May I suggest that you lobby for the exit ramps to sweep further south of Stoney Ck and WGate. This will force the acquisition of the disused tank farm (for more public space) and reduce the impact on the salt marsh.
Note that VR engineers were explicitly told to avoid private land in their designs. I believe that there is no cost analysis for this modification despite their stated aim of &#039;better public amenity&#039;. Even they admit their dwgs are &#039;diagrammatic only&#039; and the ramps will demand greater sweep than what they have illustrated.

Try and raise it with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got back from meeting hosted by Taimor and Charlie (Vic Roads) at the MCC offices.<br />
Very informative.<br />
As I understood it VR report will be with the minister early next 2010 for consideration.<br />
Project is jointly funded with the Feds and there has been no allocation of $ yet.<br />
Once VR report has been considered the results will be published and methodology for planning decided. Public comment will be invited.<br />
Don&#8217;t buy / sell until the government commits.</p>
<p>Suggest you get to the next info session.<br />
May I suggest that you lobby for the exit ramps to sweep further south of Stoney Ck and WGate. This will force the acquisition of the disused tank farm (for more public space) and reduce the impact on the salt marsh.<br />
Note that VR engineers were explicitly told to avoid private land in their designs. I believe that there is no cost analysis for this modification despite their stated aim of &#8216;better public amenity&#8217;. Even they admit their dwgs are &#8216;diagrammatic only&#8217; and the ramps will demand greater sweep than what they have illustrated.</p>
<p>Try and raise it with them.</p>
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		<title>By: AaronC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AaronC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have any updates on this.
Jimmyd is that a random comment or has something been updated officially? 
I have been emailing Taimor Hazou at Vic roads and getting nothing, not even a reply.
I need to know if Vic roads are going to tear my house down over this in Thomas St and the announcement was meant to be September. 
My house is currently going into disrepair, while I await confirmation that my property will or won&#039;t be acquired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have any updates on this.<br />
Jimmyd is that a random comment or has something been updated officially?<br />
I have been emailing Taimor Hazou at Vic roads and getting nothing, not even a reply.<br />
I need to know if Vic roads are going to tear my house down over this in Thomas St and the announcement was meant to be September.<br />
My house is currently going into disrepair, while I await confirmation that my property will or won&#8217;t be acquired.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmyd</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/12/on-off-ramps-for-westgate/comment-page-2/#comment-1894</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No off ramp = all deals off. Back to closing streets, lets do it again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No off ramp = all deals off. Back to closing streets, lets do it again</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Somerville Rd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Somerville Rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey what about a toll on trucks using Francis St or Somerville Rd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey what about a toll on trucks using Francis St or Somerville Rd?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Somerville Rd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Somerville Rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also taken photos of trucks using the roads illegally during curfew. The trick to avoiding a confrontation is to take the photo while travelling the opposite direction. Trucks physically can&#039;t do U-turns on Francis St or Somerville Rd.

One time I was walking my dog (a Sunday) and the driver stopped and jumped down, then quickly got back in his cab when he realised that accosting somone bigger than you who also has a dog isn&#039;t smart. Ha Ha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also taken photos of trucks using the roads illegally during curfew. The trick to avoiding a confrontation is to take the photo while travelling the opposite direction. Trucks physically can&#8217;t do U-turns on Francis St or Somerville Rd.</p>
<p>One time I was walking my dog (a Sunday) and the driver stopped and jumped down, then quickly got back in his cab when he realised that accosting somone bigger than you who also has a dog isn&#8217;t smart. Ha Ha</p>
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		<title>By: Dr John Tully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr John Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a long time Yarraville resident (here before most of the trucks), I too am pleased that trucks will be diverted from out streets. Mtag should be congratulated by the way, not just the politicians who finally listened.

One thing that might be worth looking at is the proposed cycle path which will link the existing Federation Trail at Millers Road with Williamstown Road. This is a great idea, but it really should be extended from there to link up with the Bayside Trail along the Yarra. Whatever plans are made for the slip road off the freeway should also bear in mind the need to link up these bicycle paths. People will be aware of the pressing reasons to extend our off-road cycle network.

Cheers,

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long time Yarraville resident (here before most of the trucks), I too am pleased that trucks will be diverted from out streets. Mtag should be congratulated by the way, not just the politicians who finally listened.</p>
<p>One thing that might be worth looking at is the proposed cycle path which will link the existing Federation Trail at Millers Road with Williamstown Road. This is a great idea, but it really should be extended from there to link up with the Bayside Trail along the Yarra. Whatever plans are made for the slip road off the freeway should also bear in mind the need to link up these bicycle paths. People will be aware of the pressing reasons to extend our off-road cycle network.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: dylan</title>
		<link>http://mtag.org.au/NEWS/2008/12/on-off-ramps-for-westgate/comment-page-2/#comment-1885</link>
		<dc:creator>dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter,

Sorry to say but I have noticed some Chalmers trucks on Whitehall St going to Moore St in just the last little while at night.  I don&#039;t  recall seeing them much if at all before.

I assume they are taking Whitehall and Moore to Geelong road rather than the Westgate.  I take it they have accepted the ban on Francis St?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter,</p>
<p>Sorry to say but I have noticed some Chalmers trucks on Whitehall St going to Moore St in just the last little while at night.  I don&#8217;t  recall seeing them much if at all before.</p>
<p>I assume they are taking Whitehall and Moore to Geelong road rather than the Westgate.  I take it they have accepted the ban on Francis St?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We got a firm assurance that the ramps will be built with or without federal funding. More soon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got a firm assurance that the ramps will be built with or without federal funding. More soon&#8230;</p>
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